{"id":1212,"date":"2008-09-17T10:56:56","date_gmt":"2008-09-17T10:56:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2008\/09\/hate-windows-uac-have-you-actually-tried-the-alternatives.htm"},"modified":"2008-09-17T10:56:56","modified_gmt":"2008-09-17T10:56:56","slug":"hate-windows-uac-have-you-actually-tried-the-alternatives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2008\/09\/hate-windows-uac-have-you-actually-tried-the-alternatives.htm","title":{"rendered":"Hate Windows UAC?  Have you actually tried the alternatives?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The next time somebody complains about Windows User Account Control (UAC), I&#8217;d like them to actually try using a Mac as a standard user (i.e. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2006\/09\/its-time-to-practice-safe-computing.htm\">not the default setting, which is an Administrator, albeit not the root user<\/a>).  I&#8217;m in the process of applying Apple&#8217;s latest 10 updates, which are huge (I didn&#8217;t notice the total for all 10, but I it was well over half a gigabyte &#8211; just one HP Printer Driver Update was 142MB and the Mac OS X 10.5.5 update is 321MB).<\/p>\n<p>In the intervening time, during which I&#8217;ve been writing this post on another PC, I&#8217;ve had to enter my Administrator credentials <del>four<\/del> <del>five<\/del> six times to allow Apple Software Update to do its thing.  Mac OS X (and Linux) use a time-based system whereby once I&#8217;ve entered my elevated credentials they are valid for a set period but at least once I&#8217;ve told Windows Update that I do want to install a bunch of updates, that process (and any child processes) are then allowed to continue unhindered.  It seems that the answer for me should really be to use <code>setuid<\/code> and make Apple Software Update run elevated but that is not necessarily a good idea either. <\/p>\n<p>I guess there are advantages and disadvantages to either approach (actually, <a href=\"http:\/\/weblog.infoworld.com\/securityadviser\/archives\/2006\/03\/is_windows_vist.html\">the time-based approach has a significant weakness in that any process can run elevated during that window<\/a>) but the real point is that UAC is there for our protection &#8211; and it&#8217;s not really that big a problem in my experience.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, for hardcore Windows users that would like to <a href=\"http:\/\/huddledmasses.org\/vista-setuid-how-to-elevate-without-prompting\/\">implement an equivalent of the Linux\/OS X <code>setuid<\/code> command in Vista<\/a> (or Windows Server 2008, I guess), Joel Bennett explains how to do it with PowerShell.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The next time somebody complains about Windows User Account Control (UAC), I&#8217;d like them to actually try using a Mac as a standard user (i.e. not the default setting, which is an Administrator, albeit not the root user). 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