{"id":1273,"date":"2008-11-06T09:00:09","date_gmt":"2008-11-06T09:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2008\/11\/running-vmware-server-on-top-of-hyper-v-or-not.htm"},"modified":"2008-11-12T00:24:10","modified_gmt":"2008-11-12T00:24:10","slug":"running-vmware-server-on-top-of-hyper-v-or-not","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2008\/11\/running-vmware-server-on-top-of-hyper-v-or-not.htm","title":{"rendered":"Running VMware Server on top of Hyper-V&#8230; or not"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A few days ago, I came across a couple of blog posts about how VMware Server won&#8217;t run on top of Hyper-V.  Frankly, I&#8217;m amazed that <em>any<\/em> hosted virtualisation product (like VMware Server) will run on top of <em>any<\/em> hypervisor &#8211; I always understood that hosted virtualisation required so many hacks to work at all that if it saw something that wasn&#8217;t the real CPU (i.e. a hypervisor handling access to the processor&#8217;s hardware virtualisation support) then it might be expected to fall over in a heap &#8211; and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.somelifeblog.com\/2008\/09\/hyper-v-and-vmware-20-incompatible-on.html\">it seems that VMware even coded VMware Server 2.0 to check for the existence of Hyper-V and fail gracefully<\/a>.  Quite what happens with VMware Server on top of ESX or XenServer, I don&#8217;t know &#8211; but I wouldn&#8217;t expect it to work any better.  <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.msdn.com\/virtual_pc_guy\/archive\/2008\/01\/04\/running-virtual-pc-under-hyper-v-beta.aspx\">Bizarrely, Virtual PC and Virtual Server <em>will<\/em> run on Hyper-V<\/a> (I have even installed Hyper-V on top of Hyper-V whilst recording the installation process for a Microsoft TechNet video!) and, for the record, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rtfm-ed.co.uk\/?p=387\">ESX will run in VMware Workstation<\/a> too (i.e. hypervisor on top of hosted virtualisation).  <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.technet.com\/mattmcspirit\/archive\/2008\/08\/26\/running-esx-3-5-esxi-on-vmware-workstation-6-5-beta.aspx\">As for Hyper-V in VMware Workstation VM &#8211; I&#8217;ve not got around to trying it yet but Microsoft&#8217;s Matt McSpirit is not hopeful<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless of the above, <a href=\"http:\/\/graegert.com\/?p=633\">Steve Graegart did come up with a neat solution for those instances when you really must run a hosted virtualisation solution and Hyper-V on the same box<\/a>.  It involves dual-booting, which is a pain in the proverbial but, according to Steve, it works:<\/p>\n<blockquote cite=\"http:\/\/graegert.com\/?p=633\">\n<ol>\n<li>Open a command prompt and create a new [boot loader] entry by copying the default one <code>bcdedit \/copy {default} \/d \"Boot without Hypervisor\"<\/code><\/li>\n<li>After successful execution copy the GUID (ID of the new boot loader entry) including the curly braces to the clipboard.<\/li>\n<li>Set the HyperVisorLaunchType property to off <code>bcdedit \/set {<em>guid<\/em>} hypervisorlaunchtype off<\/code> [using] the GUID you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve previously copied to the clipboard.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>After this, you should now have a boot time selection of whether or not to start Hyper-V (and hence whether or not an alternative virtualisation solution will run as expected).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few days ago, I came across a couple of blog posts about how VMware Server won&#8217;t run on top of Hyper-V. 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