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After the Windows 7 announcements and late night blogging I was pretty burned out so I took a day off at the end of last week. As it happened, that was when Microsoft finally came out and made a statement about the whole European mess<\/a>. Based on this latest statement<\/a>, a ballot screen idea is definitely on the table and, if accepted, there will be no need for an E Edition without a web browser – Europe can have the same editions as the rest of the world (almost – I imagine there will still be legal requirement for N edition as that relates to a different, and equally pointless, legal case).<\/p>\n

Ironically, Opera, who started this whole nonsense, will probably lose out. As Microsoft’s James O’Neill<\/a> tweeted back to Mary Jo Foley (whose blog post on Microsoft’s decision to offer European users a browser choice in Windows 7<\/a> covers all the details):<\/p>\n

“@maryjofoley<\/a> If a ballot screen is alphabetical with opera last (after Apple, Google, and Mozilla) you can bet they’ll go crying back.”<\/p>\n

[jamesone<\/a> on Twitter]<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

“@maryjofoley<\/a> Also – how many browsers on the ballot ? I don’t think opera is in the top 3 by share”<\/p>\n

[jamesone<\/a> on Twitter]<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

James is often pretty forthright in his views – and he works for Microsoft – but he’s spot on here. For what it’s worth, I think that most users will download Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer (IE) – because it’s from Microsoft, who make the operating system they will have just purchased – or Mozilla Firefox (for those who would prefer a third-party browser). Apple Safari, Google Chrome, Opera, etc. will remain also-rans, whatever their merits (of course, Safari will continue to dominate on OS X and Chrome will be integral to Google’s new Linux distro<\/a>).<\/p>\n

Even if you do get hold of E Edition (i.e. a copy of Windows without Internet Exploder built in), there are a number of workarounds posted, like Rafael Rivera’s suggestion of exploiting Windows Media Player to download a browser<\/a>. Rafael is a smart guy but there’s a much simpler way – ftp.exe<\/code> (the command line FTP client in Windows) – or, for that matter, FTP site access from Explorer<\/a>. Actually, I put a port of wget<\/a> onto many of my systems so that would even give me command line HTTP access to pull down a browser. The smartest idea I saw was using mshta.exe<\/code> to access a website<\/a> (e.g. mshta http:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/<\/code>). I haven’t checked to see if that executable is still present when Internet Explorer is uninstalled (I doubt it), but it sounds like a nice command to know about anyway.<\/p>\n

[Update: It looks like XP and Vista users will also get presented with a ballot screen<\/a> – not sure how Microsoft Update will determine that we are in Europe though… IP address? Product SKU?]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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