{"id":2305,"date":"2011-02-02T22:12:04","date_gmt":"2011-02-02T22:12:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/?p=2305"},"modified":"2013-03-23T21:28:05","modified_gmt":"2013-03-23T21:28:05","slug":"what-might-windows-8-or-windows-next-bring-for-tabletsslates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2011\/02\/what-might-windows-8-or-windows-next-bring-for-tabletsslates.htm","title":{"rendered":"What might &#8220;Windows 8&#8221; (or &#8220;Windows Next&#8221;) bring for tablets\/slates?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Once upon a time, Microsoft used to share information about developments in new versions of Windows with customers and partners. Then came Windows Vista (codenamed Longhorn), a project fraught with difficulties, and there was much consternation about cancelled functionality.\u00a0 So, for the next release (codenamed, and later released as, Windows 7, even though it&#8217;s only 6.1), Microsoft kept quiet, before shipping a very public beta and asking people for feedback, long after all the key decisions had been made!<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Windows 8&#8221; looks to continue in the same vein &#8211; except that Microsoft won&#8217;t even tell us a codename &#8211; only making vague references to &#8220;the next version of Windows&#8221; or &#8220;Windows Next&#8221;. So, it&#8217;s hardly surprising that the tech media is trying to glean information about what the next release of Windows may have in store.\u00a0 And, as an MVP and an employee of a major global systems integrator (but speaking for myself of course &#8211; my views are personal and should not be interpreted as a statement on behalf of my employer), I can tell you it&#8217;s not just technology journalists and bloggers that want to know &#8211;\u00a0I want to be able to talk to customers about roadmaps but Microsoft is keeping schtum.<\/p>\n<p>So, when journalist, author, ZDNet blogger and long-time Microsoft commentator, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zdnet.com\/blog\/microsoft\">Mary Jo Foley<\/a> ran a webcast this afternoon looking at Microsoft&#8217;s strategy for tablets\/slates &#8220;Windows 8&#8221;, I tuned in.\u00a0 Of course, it was nothing that Mary Jo hadn&#8217;t already written about &#8211; and it was purely speculative (albeit based on some good sources) but it&#8217;s the best we have to go on right now about what might be coming &#8211; and a good summary of the current situation.<\/p>\n<p>The following are my notes from the webcast.\u00a0 I may well look back in a year or so and laugh at how wrong we were (as I did with my tweets about the iPad from late-January 2010!) but I have a feeling that most, if not all, of this will come true.<\/p>\n<p>It was interesting to see what people think about the market for slates\/tablets.\u00a0 Based on a poll taken during the call: 13% think that Apple owns the market [as of now, they do &#8211; but that could still change]; 8% think it&#8217;s overrated and will slip away like netbooks [unlikely &#8211; have you seen the sales figures for the iPad?]; 22% think the market is in its infancy and will hurt PC sales [definitely nascent; but I generally see slates as additive, rather than alternatives to PCs]; and the vast majority (57%) think the market is in its infancy but that there is room for Android and Windows &#8220;pads&#8221;.\u00a0 Based on those figures (which are far from scientific, and likely to be skewed in Microsoft&#8217;s favour given Mary Jo&#8217;s readership) Microsoft has not completely lost its chance to ship a decent tablet but it&#8217;s clear there is still a lot of work to do &#8211; and a lot of unknowns.<\/p>\n<p>So what about Windows 7 slates? It&#8217;s difficult for me to comment on this, for professional reasons (although I have previously written about how <a href=\"https:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2010\/10\/how-steve-ballmer-told-me-what-to-do-with-my-ipad.htm\">Steve Ballmer told me what to do with my iPad<\/a>) but Mary Jo Foley is not a fan. She sees some interesting designs, but considers them to be generally pricey, not portable enough, with poor battery life and not true iPad competitors. [For what it&#8217;s worth, I can&#8217;t argue with any of that.]<\/p>\n<p>And what&#8217;s the difference between a slate and tablet? Not a lot.\u00a0 Microsoft likes to talk about tablets &#8211; they see a\u00a0stylus as a differentiator but the two terms are used interchangably by analysts and media &#8211; like notebooks and laptops (or twenty-eleven and two-thousand-and-eleven).<\/p>\n<p>On Windows 8, Microsoft has said nothing &#8211; although they have spoken of &#8220;the next version of Windows&#8221;.\u00a0 That could be Windows 8, or it could be something else (Windows Compact Embedded?) but is really likely to be a successor to Windows 7.<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft has accidentally leaked information about &#8220;Windows Next&#8221; in job advertisements, blog posts, leaked slides from confidential presentations to OEMs. Some of the information gleaned includes references to\u00a0identifying modern form factors to target and optimise for:<\/p>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li>Lap PC<\/li>\n<li>Workhorse PC<\/li>\n<li>Family Hub PC<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The second and third categories are familiar &#8211; and the first sounds\/looks like a slate [albeit with a terrible lable].<\/p>\n<p>There is a view that &#8220;Lap PCs&#8221; are about consumption (I think there is scope for some content creation &#8211; I certainly write on my iPad) but some differentiators might include more built in sensors (facial recognition to log in; ambient sensor to detect that the user is not there and hibernate\/shutdown) as well as apps to integrate with home automation &#8211; but remember we&#8217;re likely to see at least one [maybe two] iteration(s) of the iPad before any of this comes to market.<\/p>\n<p>Whilst we don&#8217;t know what &#8220;Windows Next&#8221; is, assuming it is a replacement for Windows 7, we can expect to see it within\u00a024-36 months after Windows 7 shipped (so 2012) and it will run on x86, ARM and Intel\/AMD system-on-a-chip (SoC) architectures.<\/p>\n<p>Microsoft has said nothing official about RTM dates\/betas, etc. but Mary Jo Foley believes milestone build 1 (M1) was released within Microsoft in September 2010\u00a0with\u00a0M2 due this month and\u00a0M3 around July\/August.\u00a0 After that, we might see A public test build in September (at PDC?)\u00a0with a beta\u00a0in 2012, and release in summer 2012?\u00a0 There are some question marks around which architecture(s) may ship first, as well as whether it will be all 64-bit [I think it should be, but expect a 32-bit version to be available, at least for some SKUs].<\/p>\n<p>It looks like there might be some interesting features for tablets\/slates too:<\/p>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li>Jupiter looks to be an application development model\/framework that provides a XAML layer on top of Windows, maybe with its roots in version 5 of the Microsoft.NET Framework, for seamless creation of apps that are optimised for the tablet\/slate experience.<\/li>\n<li>MoSH may be a Modern SHell &#8211; an alternative user interface for Windows on slates\/tablets &#8211; maybe using the Metro style we&#8217;ve seen in the Zune and Windows Phone software [let&#8217;s hope so].<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Microsoft would like there to be &#8220;one Windows&#8221; but there isn&#8217;t and it&#8217;s only natural to ask if &#8220;Windows Next&#8221; will be the only slate operating system? We can expect to see version 7 of Windows Embedded Compact (definitely for data consumption only) released around April\/May 2011, but there is also a chance of Windows Phone on tablets, despite Microsoft statements to the contrary [I think it could be be a great solution &#8211; although Mary Jo Foley notes that Windows is more mature and more stable than Windows Phone 7].<\/p>\n<p>Can Microsoft win back iPad users? Well, maybe some of them &#8211; many of us are iPad users because there is simply nothing better in the market. Perhaps a Windows tablet could be good &#8211; but I for one would take some convincing &#8211; and it wouldn&#8217;t be running Windows 7 (and, from what I&#8217;ve seen of Google Android &#8220;Honeycomb&#8221;, it&#8217;s not really a step forward from current Apple iOS functionality either).\u00a0 The real questions are around applications and access to data &#8211; and only time will tell what Microsoft has in store (excuse the pun) or what effect the revamped Android Marketplace will have.<\/p>\n<p>For now, Mary Jo&#8217;s big unknowns are:<\/p>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li>What will Windows slates do to address the issues of weight\/cost\/battery life? A\u00a0tablet needs to be lightweight with a 10 hour battery life (as a minimum) [and to compete on value with the existing market leader].<\/li>\n<li>Will Microsoft lock down the slate chassis specifications (as they did for Windows Phone 7), providing a common ground for applications?<\/li>\n<li>Will the Metro user interface appear on a &#8220;WinPad&#8221;?<\/li>\n<li>What about the Windows Application store? What apps will it have? Where from? Written by whom?<\/li>\n<li>Will any of the Courier concepts re-emerge?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[Update 3 February 2011: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.windowsitpro.com\/article\/Windows-Phone-7\/Windows-8-Rumors-Updates-to-Windows-Phone-7-Server-2008-R2-SP1-and-iPhone-4-on-Verizon.aspx\">Paul Thurrott also looks at Windows 8 rumours, among other things<\/a>, prompting <a href=\"http:\/\/sqlblog.com\/blogs\/jamie_thomson\/\">Jamie Thomson<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/jamiet\/status\/33183519073247232\">ask another good question<\/a>: Will Microsoft allow enterprises to run their own internal application stores?]<\/p>\n<p>For now, we don&#8217;t really know the answers &#8211; I&#8217;m hopefully that things will fall into place towards the end of 2011 but the longer Microsoft has nothing, whilst Apple ships significant quantities of iPads (and &#8220;iPad 2&#8243;s), the larger the gap becomes, and the further Apple encroaches into Microsoft&#8217;s enterprise heartland.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Once upon a time, Microsoft used to share information about developments in new versions of Windows with customers and partners. 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