{"id":5698,"date":"2015-07-01T22:24:33","date_gmt":"2015-07-01T21:24:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/?p=5698"},"modified":"2015-07-02T00:37:46","modified_gmt":"2015-07-01T23:37:46","slug":"the-onedrive-thats-really-two-drives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2015\/07\/the-onedrive-thats-really-two-drives.htm","title":{"rendered":"The OneDrive that&#8217;s really two drives&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jamie Thomson and I have long since lamented <a href=\"https:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2013\/12\/confusion-over-accounts-used-to-access-microsofts-online-services.htm\">the challenges of Microsoft&#8217;s two directories for cloud services<\/a>\u00a0and it doesn&#8217;t stop there. Take a look at cloud storage:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>OneDrive<\/strong> is Microsoft&#8217;s cloud-based storage offering, accessed with a Microsoft Account (formerly a Windows Live ID, or a Passport if you go back far enough&#8230;)<\/li>\n<li><strong>OneDrive for Business<\/strong> is Microsoft&#8217;s cloud-based storage offering, accessed with an Organizational Account (which lives in Microsoft Azure AD)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Similar names, similar purpose, totally different implementation &#8211; as the OneDrive for Business product is still Groove (which later became SharePoint Workspace) under the covers (<a href=\"https:\/\/onedrive.live.com\/about\/en-us\/download\/\">have a look at the filename when you download the client<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/images\/od4b-groove.png?resize=700%2C58&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"58\" \/><\/p>\n<p>And look what happens when you have both products with the same email address used to access them:<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/images\/two-onedrives.png?resize=540%2C346&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"540\" height=\"346\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Still, at least the site detects that this has happened and gives you the choice. And there is some hope for future convergence <a href=\"http:\/\/sqlblog.com\/blogs\/jamie_thomson\/archive\/2015\/02\/25\/new-onedrive-api-possibly-unified-with-onedrive-for-business.aspx\">as Jamie highlights in this blog post from earlier in the year<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this week, I was helping a customer to get ready for an Office 365 pilot and they were having challenges with the OneDrive client. The version available for download from the Office 365 portal is a click-to-run installation and it didn&#8217;t want to play nicely with their .MSI-based Office 2013 installation (which should already include the client anyway). Actually, that didn&#8217;t really matter because the OneDrive client is also included in Windows 8.1, which was the operating system being used.<\/p>\n<p>The confusion came with setting up the connected services inside\u00a0Office:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>To set up a OneDrive account, click on OneDrive &#8211; but that will only accept Microsoft Account credentials and, after configuration it will show as something like &#8220;OneDrive\u00a0&#8211; Personal&#8221;.<\/li>\n<li>To set up OneDrive for Business, <a href=\"https:\/\/community.office365.com\/en-us\/f\/172\/t\/231259\">don&#8217;t click OneDrive<\/a> but select SharePoint instead. After logging on with your Organizational Account credentials, that will be displayed as &#8220;OneDrive &#8211; organisation name&#8221; (with SharePoint sites appearing as &#8220;Sites &#8211; organisation name&#8221;).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Some illustration might help so, below is a shot of my connected services. Because I&#8217;m connected to multiple Office 365 tenants, you can see that I have multiple OneDrive [for Business] and Sites entries:<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/images\/office-2013-connected-services.png?resize=350%2C270&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"270\" \/><\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re trying to get hold of the OneDrive for Business sync client for SharePoint 2013 and SharePoint Online, <a href=\"https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-us\/kb\/2903984\">Microsoft knowledge base article 2903984<\/a> has the links for the click-to-run install.\u00a0 If you want an MSI version, then you&#8217;re out of luck &#8211; but you can\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/technet.microsoft.com\/en-us\/library\/cc178960.aspx\">create a customised Office 2013 installation instead<\/a>\u00a0as OneDrive for Business (formerly SkyDrive Pro) was originally released as part of several Office 2013 suites (as described in <a href=\"https:\/\/support.microsoft.com\/en-gb\/kb\/2904296\">Microsoft knowledge base article 2904296<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, if you&#8217;re trying to work out how to get a OneDrive for Business app on Windows Phone, the OneDrive app can connect to both OneDrive and OneDrive for Business.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/images\/wp81-onedrive.png?resize=216%2C386&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"216\" height=\"386\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Confused?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jamie Thomson and I have long since lamented the challenges of Microsoft&#8217;s two directories for cloud services\u00a0and it doesn&#8217;t stop there. 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