{"id":6500,"date":"2016-08-31T12:00:24","date_gmt":"2016-08-31T11:00:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/?p=6500"},"modified":"2016-08-31T12:38:38","modified_gmt":"2016-08-31T11:38:38","slug":"android-for-under-13s-no-google-accounts-no-family-sharing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2016\/08\/android-for-under-13s-no-google-accounts-no-family-sharing.htm","title":{"rendered":"Android for under-13s: no Google accounts; no family sharing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We&#8217;re entering a new phase in the Wilson family as my eldest son starts secondary school next week and my\u00a0youngest becomes\u00a0more and more tech-aware.<\/p>\n<p>The nearly-10 year-old\u00a0just wants a reasonably-priced, reasonably-specced tablet as my original iPad is no longer suiting his needs (stuck back on iOS 5 and with a pretty low spec by today&#8217;s standards) &#8211; I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll work something out.<\/p>\n<p>A\u00a0bigger challenge is a phone for the nearly-12 year-old. We&#8217;ve said he can have his own smartphone when his birthday comes and effectively there are 3 (well, 2) platforms to consider:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Windows Mobile: limited app availability; inexpensive handsets; uncertain future.<\/li>\n<li>Apple iOS: expensive hardware; good app support.<\/li>\n<li>Google Android: wide availability of apps and\u00a0hardware; fragmented OS.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Really, Windows isn&#8217;t an option (for consumers &#8211; different story in the enterprise); Apple is only viable\u00a0if he has a hand-me-down device (which is a possibility); but he&#8217;s been doing his research, and is looking at price\/specs for various Android devices. \u00a0The current favourite is an Elephone P9000 &#8211; which <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcadvisor.co.uk\/review\/android-smartphones\/elephone-p9000-review-3636611\/\">looks like a decent phone for a reasonable price<\/a> &#8211; as long as I can find a reliable UK supplier (i.e. not grey market).<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, and to see\u00a0how he gets on before we\u00a0commit to a device purchase, I&#8217;ve given him an old Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini that I had in a drawer and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.giffgaff.com\/orders\/affiliate\/markawilson\">I put a giffgaff SIM in<\/a>.\u00a0Because it&#8217;s a Google device, he gets the\u00a0best experience if he uses a Google account&#8230; and that&#8217;s where the trouble started.<\/p>\n<p>We went to sign-up, added some details, and promptly found that <a href=\"https:\/\/support.google.com\/accounts\/answer\/1350409\">you have to be 13 to open a Google account<\/a>. And unlike with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apple.com\/uk\/icloud\/family-sharing\/\">Apple iCloud Family Sharing<\/a>, where I have family sharing set up for the old iPhones that the boys use around the house, the Google equivalent (<a href=\"https:\/\/support.google.com\/googleplay\/answer\/7007852\">Google Play Family Library<\/a>)\u00a0also needs all of the family members to be at least 13. \u00a0There simply appears to be no option for younger children to use Google services.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe that&#8217;s because <em>Google&#8217;s primary business is about selling advertising<\/em>\u00a0and advertising\u00a0to children is\u00a0questionable from a moral standpoint (though <a href=\"https:\/\/kids.youtube.com\/\">YouTube have come up with a child-friendly product<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>I tried signing in as me &#8211; which let me download some apps but also meant he had access to my information &#8211; like all of my contacts (easily switched off but still undesirable).<\/p>\n<p>Luckily, it seems I created him a\u00a0GMail account when he was 5 weeks old (prescient, some might say) and I was able to\u00a0find my way into that and\u00a0get him going. Sadly, it seems I was not\u00a0as mentally sharp when his little brother was born&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>(As an aside, I originally gave my son a Nokia &#8220;feature phone&#8221; to use and he looked bemused &#8211; he later confessed\u00a0that was because he didn&#8217;t know how to use it!)<\/p>\n<p><em>Postscript: I&#8217;ve since given my youngest son <a href=\"https:\/\/www.markwilson.co.uk\/blog\/2015\/07\/complete-hudl-wipe-with-reflash-to-revert-to-factory-settings.htm\">my Tesco Hudl<\/a> and was able to sign up for a Google account without being asked to\u00a0provide date of birth details&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We&#8217;re entering a new phase in the Wilson family as my eldest son starts secondary school next week and my\u00a0youngest becomes\u00a0more and more tech-aware. 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